reprogrammation telecommande 360

[Invité §ste584so]

bonsoir a tous, quelqu'un aurait il deja reprogrammé ses télécommandes, et connaitrait il la procédure? il s'agit d'une 360, et la procedure du livret semble ne pas etre la bonne! merci de vos remarques

[futur rouge]

On me l'a fait pour ma 430, mais en concession

[Invité §pie584BY]

C'est une véritable galère, Madou nous l'a refait il y a quelques semaines...

 

J'ai aucune idée de la procédure en plus !

[Invité §nan463Ko]

Moi j ai perdu le double et chez pozzi ils prennent trop cher .

[futur rouge]

Pour refaire une clef ça m'a coûter 500 euro par ferrari

[Invité §nan463Ko]

salut guillaume,

ou as tu eu ce prix?

[futur rouge]

Direçt à la concession, j'avais une clef qui ne permettait pas d'ouvrir les portes et enlever l'alarme donc je m'en suis commande une toute neuve

[Invité §ste584so]

merci, mais c'est au niveau de la reprogrammation de la télécommande que j'ai du mal a synchroniser!

c'est a dire que malgré le bon code de la cle et la reconnaissance de l'alarme, je n'arrive pas a synchroniser les nouvelles télécommandes?

[Invité §eri626eT]

merci, mais c'est au niveau de la reprogrammation de la télécommande que j'ai du mal a synchroniser!

c'est a dire que malgré le bon code de la cle et la reconnaissance de l'alarme, je n'arrive pas a synchroniser les nouvelles télécommandes?

 

 

 

Est-ce que tu peux préciser ce que tu veux faire exactement:

- programmer un nouveau jeu complet de télécommandes avec le code PIN associé?

- ajouter des télécommandes qui n'étaient pas avec ta voiture?

- refaire marcher des télécommandes qui étaient livrées avec ta voiture, qui ont marché mais qui ne marchent plus?

 

De quoi disposes-tu? le code PIN valide, qui permet de démarrer la voiture? combien de télécommandes qui marchent? ...

[Invité §eri626eT]

Moi j ai perdu le double et chez pozzi ils prennent trop cher .

 

 

Il est possible de cloner une télécommande pour pas si cher ...

[Invité §ste584so]

il ne me reste qu'une seule telecommande (noir) d'origine, mais j'ai un jeu complet (rouge + 2 noirs) neuve d'origine avec le code fournit par ferrari, j'ai aussi le code de mon auto, qui est fonctionel puisque je peux demarrer l'aurto avec celui ci, mais je n'arrive pas malgre la procedure a programmer le nouveau jeu de télécommande! voila

[Invité §eri626eT]

il ne me reste qu'une seule telecommande (noir) d'origine, mais j'ai un jeu complet (rouge + 2 noirs) neuve d'origine avec le code fournit par ferrari, j'ai aussi le code de mon auto, qui est fonctionel puisque je peux demarrer l'aurto avec celui ci, mais je n'arrive pas malgre la procedure a programmer le nouveau jeu de télécommande! voila

 

 

OK, c'est clair.

A quel moment la procédure ne marche pas? Tu n'as pas la LED clignotante après les 10 on/off de la clé?

Si c'est le cas, continue les on/off, il arrive que ça marche après 11, 12, 13 fois ... ou plus!!

[Invité §ste584so]

c'est exactement cela, malgré les 10 on/off, la led ne clignotte pas

 

je te remercie et je re éssayerais des que possible!

 

Est ce une procédure que tu as déja effectué souvent?

[Invité §eri626eT]

c'est exactement cela, malgré les 10 on/off, la led ne clignotte pas

 

je te remercie et je re éssayerais des que possible!

 

Est ce une procédure que tu as déja effectué souvent?

 

 

 

2 fois ... 11 et 13 !!

Et j'ai pas mal étudié le système de ces télécommandes pour mettre au point leur clonage ...

[Invité §ste584so]

et bien je t'en remercie et je te tiendrais au courant

[fred3000gt]

T'as regarde sur FerrariChat? je crois me souvenir que j'avais downloade un doc word qui donnait tous les trucs vicieux auquels penser pour la tele de la 360...

[Invité §ste584so]

bonsoir, je viens de rechercher sur ferrarichat mais je ne l'ai pas trouvé?

si vous avez un lien ce serait sympa merci

[Trafalgar]

C'était ça

 

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Programming a Ferrari Alarm ECU with Alarm Remote Fobs

Alarm and Fob Basics: Ferraris arrived from the factory with three matched alarm remote fobs, one red master fob, and two black slave fobs. The red fob contains the Alarm Electronic Control Unit (ECU) Personal Identification Number (PIN) and an identification (ID) number. The black fobs contain only an ID number. The red and black fob ID numbers are combined with a rolling code to prevent compromise by thieves using a radio receiver and recorder to duplicate the ID and code and use those to gain entry, just like modern garage door openers use rolling codes to prevent compromise.

 

The Alarm ECU PIN is provided with the car, or with a new set of matched fobs, on a small piece of two layer paper, the top layer of which must be removed to read the PIN. A red fob and its PIN can only be used to program the Alarm ECU to accept a matched set of three alarm fobs. The red fob cannot be used to program the Alarm ECU to accept other black alarm fobs that were not part of a matched set of three fobs. The Alarm ECU only uses the PIN when the car is started with ignition key and PIN alone (fobs lost or inoperative), or when reprogramming the ECU to accept new fobs. In normal use, the Alarm ECU uses only the fob IDs and rolling codes in the red and black fobs. Reprogramming the Alarm ECU for a new set of fobs is an extension of starting the car with ignition key and PIN only.

 

In normal practice, there is no difference between the red and black fobs, because the Alarm ECU only uses the PIN in the red alarm fob during programming. In day to day operation, the Alarm ECU uses only the ID and rolling code for each red and black alarm fob to arm and disarm the system. The Alarm ECU will only accept the red fob PIN and ID and two black fob IDs during reprogramming. Note the fobs are transmitters only. They have no receiver capability.

 

Ferrari recommends changing the 23A/A23/MN21/21/23 12 volt battery in your fobs every six months. This is easily accomplished with a small Phillips head screwdriver to remove the screw holding together the two fob halves.

 

If you lose the screw, it is a #1-64 thread pitch and 1/4 in length and can be purchased from McMaster at this link:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#91773a166/=j5rao

Part # is 91773A166. It is a Round Head Phillips Machine Screw in 18-8 stainless steel.

 

Changing the battery will not affect the programming in a fob’s EEPROM. (electrically erasable, programmable, read-only memory). The battery looks like a shortened AAA battery and is at the top near the chain loop. A common malfunction with fob operation is the battery contacts becoming too spread to maintain a good connection. Simply closing the gap on the contacts will fix this problem.

 

 

European and US/Canadian fobs use different transmitter frequencies and are not interchangeable. See Note 1 and Note 2 for frequencies and applications. By opening the case and reading the part number on the SAW (surface acoustic wave) filter just below the battery, it is possible to determine whether a fob is US (315Mhz) or European (433.9Mhz). 315Mhz filters part numbers are R2622 and RP1239 are 315Mhz., R2632 and P1308 are 433.9Mhz. The SAW filter shown is a 315Mhz RP1239 (US).

 

If you only have alarm key fobs and no PIN, you cannot reprogram your Alarm ECU to accept new key fobs. It is possible to clone extra key fobs to provide back-ups. Do a search in Ferrarichat.com to find who can do this. It may be possible for Ferrari North America, through its authorized dealer network, to provide you with your old PIN, along with a new PIN and set of remotes. Even though a 2006 tech bulletin stated this would no longer be possible, several owners have recently been provided their old Alarm ECU PIN for a price. If your dealer/FNA cannot provide your old PIN, FNA can provide you a new Alarm ECU, a new set of three remotes matching the ECU, and a new PIN number as an ultimate, but costly, solution. One enterprising owner bought a used Alarm ECU complete with three fobs and PIN from another owner who no longer needed them.

 

With the alarm and engine immobilizer armed, pressing a key fob will disarm both alarm and immobilizer. After 120 seconds, the engine immobilizer will rearm if the car is not started. With the immobilizer armed, the engine will turn over, but will not start. Starting the car will require one additional push on the fob to disarm the immobilizer if 120 seconds have elapsed since disarming the system. If you remove the key and open a door after returning from driving and do not arm the system with a fob, the immobilizer will arm 60 seconds after the door is opened. To reprogram the Alarm ECU to the new PIN in the red fob, make sure the immobilizer is armed and the alarm is disarmed.

 

Starting a Ferrari without a Key Fob: The first step in reprogramming the Alarm ECU to accept new key fobs is the same process used to start a Ferrari if all remote alarm fobs are lost, inoperative or unavailable and you only have the ignition key and know the four digit Alarm ECU PIN. This procedure is spelled out in the Alarm System Manual supplied by Ferrari. Here is the procedure from the Ferrari copyright Alarm System Manual:

 

If this seems rather cryptic, here is what it means:

 

Drive your car to make sure the battery is fully charged in case you foul up the procedure so you do not run down your battery.

 

Remember the times important in this sequence. Key off-on-off cycles representing PIN numbers must be made in less than two seconds. After PIN numbers are entered by the required number of key off-on-off cycles, a pause of more than 2 seconds and less than 20 seconds must be made before entering the next PIN number. If your PIN has a zero, it is represented by 10 off-on-off cycles of the ignition key. If you foul up, you must wait at least 20 seconds before starting over. So here is the procedure after you have driven the car and waited 60 seconds after removing the key and opening the door or 120 seconds after removing the key and not opening the door so the immobilizer is armed.

 

PIN Code 3204 is used as an example for this case. This is different from the code 3324 in the Ferrari illustration above. Ignition switch position “0” mentioned above is off and position “II” is on.

 

Insert the ignition key and wait at least 20 seconds with the ignition key in off.

Turn the key from off to on and back to off as quickly as possible (less than 2 seconds for all PIN numbers) 3 times (count to 3 out loud) for the first PIN number “3”.

Count to 5 out loud (a good compromise between more than 2 and less than 20 seconds) before starting the second PIN number.

Turn the key off-on-off 2 times for the second PIN number “2”.

Count to 5.

Turn the key off-on-off 10 times for the third PIN number “0”.

Count to 5.

Turn the key off-on-off four times for the fourth and last PIN number “4”.

At this point the PIN is entered. After 5 seconds or so, turn the key back to on and after 2 seconds or a bit more with the key in the on position, the alarm light emitting diode (LED) will go off and you can start the car. Starting the car confirms you can correctly enter the PIN, the first step in reprogramming the Alarm ECU to accept new remote alarm fobs. Keep trying if you do not succeed the first time, remembering to wait more than 20 seconds before the next attempt.

 

Programming the Alarm ECU for New Fobs: Ferrari also provided procedures for reprogramming the Alarm ECU to accept new remote alarm fobs. This process is described as putting the Alarm ECU in “self-learning” mode in Ferrari Workshop Manuals, the first step of which is entering the Alarm ECU PIN as described above.

Again this is a bit cryptic, but the times for entering the PIN numbers still apply and less than 2 seconds is what you need to remember for the following ten key cycles noted above.

PIN number 3204 is again used as an example and the first eight steps for starting a car with PIN and ignition key alone (no fob available) are identical but given here as a complete checklist for reprogramming the Alarm ECU. The steps following PIN entry rely on watching the Alarm LED cycle from on to off ten times and eventually flashing when “self-learning” mode is fully enabled and the new alarm fob PIN (red fob only) and IDs (red and black fobs) can be entered into the Alarm ECU memory.

 

Insert the ignition key and wait 20 seconds with the ignition key in off.

Turn the key from off to on and back to off as quickly as possible (less than 2 seconds for all PIN numbers) 3 times (count to 3 out loud) for the first PIN number “3”.

Count to 5 out loud (a good compromise between more than 2 and less than 20 seconds) before starting the second PIN number.

Turn the key off-on-off 2 times for the second PIN number “2”.

Count to 5.

Turn the key off-on-off 10 times for the third PIN number “0”.

Count to 5.

Turn the key off-on-off four times for the fourth and last PIN number “4”.

Count to 5.

Turn the key to on and count “1” out loud. The Alarm LED will come on and then go off.

As soon as the LED goes off, turn the key from on to off and back to on in less than 2 seconds and count “2” out loud.

Repeat the key cycles and LED cycles until the count reaches 10 cycles.

After the 10th cycle, turn the key back on and the LED should start flashing.

Press the red fob button until the LED accelerates its flashing and then stop pressing the red fob button. The LED will resume flashing slowly.

Press the first black fob button and the LED will again accelerate its flashing. Stop pressing the black fob button and the LED will resume flashing slowly.

Press the second black fob button and the LED will accelerate its flashing one last time. Stop pressing the second fob button and the LED will stop flashing completely.

The Alarm ECU is now programmed to recognize all three remote alarm fobs and the fobs should be checked to ensure they are operational.

Note: Reports have been made of the number of cycles of the LED varying from 12 to 20 or more before the LED started flashing. My 575M Alarm LED flashed on the 11th time the key was turned to on, exactly as stated in the WSM extract above.

Although this process sounds very involved, the actual ECU programming process takes less than five minutes from start to finish, assuming you make no mistakes. This is even if you are unlucky and have a couple of zeros in your PIN.

 

Note 1

Countries with a frequency of 433 MHz:

Italy, Denmark, Luxembourg, Austria, France, Spain, Portugal, Sweden, Finland, Germany (with specific complete ECU kit), Switzerland (with specific complete ECU kit), Belgium (with specific complete ECU kit), Netherlands (with specific complete ECU kit), United Kingdom (with specific complete ECU kit), Ireland (with specific complete ECU kit), Greece, Turkey, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Brunei, Hong Kong, China, Thailand, Taiwan.

 

Note 2

Countries with a frequency of 315 MHZ:

USA, Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, Lebanon, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Japan, Singapore, Australia.

 

[Invité §ste584so]

merci a toi, c'est bien plus détaillé que le mode d'emploi!!

je referais la procédure et vous tiendrais au courant.

 

merci pour votre aide

[protruck]

j'ai retrouvé les images qui vont avec la doc de Trafalgar

 

 

 

 

[Trafalgar]

Super merci à toi mon ami pour ton complément.

[fred3000gt]

Merci a Trafalgar, j'etais un peu paresseux sur ce coup-la j'avoue...

[Invité §ste584so]

salut a tous, c'a y est ca marche!!!!!!!!!!

merci a vous qui m'avez aidé, la traduction a été une aide, car je n'attendais pas l'extinction du voyant lors de mes 10 on/off !!!

 

en tous cas un grand merci a vous!!

[audi86]

que du bonheur

[fred3000gt]

Franchement ils ont ete total parano sur la gestion telecommande/alarme, les Ferrari ne sont pas des voitures bonnes a voler, car difficiles a revendre...