TARGA FLORIO E LE CORSE SICILIANE

[shortleg]

 

Thanks shortleg for this Alpine story at Targa Florio

In 1967, n°180 was a A110

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/172915/A110Targa67.jpg

and n°182 was not really a A210. His nickname was ''la sauterelle'' ( grass-hoper), a châssis GT4 and a body M64.

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/172915/SauterelleTarga67.jpg

What means ND? not departure?

See you next.

 

 

You are right! Thanks for clarification,the starting list is evidently wrong!

N.D. means not departure,yes.

ATTENTION, I have to bring up to date about Alpine participations list on '71:

 

1971

 

n°115 Capra-Lepri A110 1,3 32°

n°117 Colombo-Tandoj A110 1,3 ab. (Tandoj dead on race)

n°118 Ramoino-Trenti A110 1,3 ab.

n°119 Ljacono-Mantia A110 1,3 ab.

 

pardon for the omissions!

 

WHAT A RARE PICTURES, I never seen them, precious contribute to Targa section.

 

BYE and see next from Shortleg

[areilladou]

Photo provenant d'un numéro de l'Automobile . Année 66 ? Qui ?

 

[shortleg]

Photo provenant d'un numéro de l'Automobile . Année 66 ? Qui ?

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/300438/targa66.jpg

 

 

1966 AlfaRomeo TZ2 n°124 driven by Federico and Martini (aband.)

 

[shortleg]

Hello friends, here I am.

This evening I'll show you some images from starting boxes

 

 

1930

 

 

1935

 

 

1968 from left: n°220 Vaccarella-Schutz; n°192 L.Bianchi-Casoni; n°182 Baghetti-Biscaldi

 

 

1968 from left: n°224 Elford-Maglioli; n°226 Siffert-Stommelen; n°230 Mitter-Scarfiotti

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/336526/Partenza%20%2769.jpg[/img

 

1969 starting grid

 

 

1970 from left: n°20 Elford-Herrmann; n°12 Siffert-Redman; n°36 Attwood-Waldegaard, n°40 Rodriguez-Kinnunen

 

 

1973 from left: n°9 Kinnunen_Haldi; n°107T and 107 Pucci-Stekkonig; n°8 Muller-VanLennep

 

see next

 

 

 

 

[shortleg]

 

1969 starting grid

[alfaronny]

1912 TARGA FLORIO

 

BALDONI-MASI sur ALFA ROMEO 24HP (DNF)

 

[alfaronny]

1913 TARGA FLORIO

 

NAZZARO-? sur NAZZARO Vainqueur

 

[alfaronny]

1914 COPPA FLORIO

 

FRANCHINI sur ALFA ROMEO 40/60HP (3e)

 

[alfaronny]

1914 TARGA FLORIO

 

CEIRANO sur SCAT Vainqueur

 

CORTESE sur NAZZARO (5e)

[alfaronny]

1919 TARGA FLORIO

 

FERRARI-? sur CMN (DNF)

[alfaronny]

1920 TARGA FLORIO

 

MERAGALLI-? sur NAZZARO Vainqueurs

 

ALFA ROMEO TEAM

# 2 CAMPARI sur ALFA ROMEO 1914 GP (DNF)

#14 FERRARI-CONTI sur ALFA ROMEO 20/30HP CORSA (2e)

#17 BALDONI sur ALFA ROMEO 40/60HP (?)

[shortleg]

Hello ronny, in 1912-13-14 the race was denominated Giro di Sicilia-Targa Florio because took place on route of Giro di Sicilia (km 1050 around Isle) and was valid for 7^,8^,9^Targa Florio, like in '48,'49 and '50.

The car n°17 in 1920 (Baldoni) was forced to withdrawal.

Now I'd like to profit by to show some images from Giro di Sicilia

 

 

1948 Biondetti-Troubetzkoy (winner)

 

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1950 Nuvolari on Cisitalia Abarth (ab.)

 

 

1950 Bornigia-Bornigia on AlfaRomeo 6C compet. (winner)

 

 

1950 Taruffi on Ferrari 375 (ab.)

 

 

1952 Marzotto P.-Marini on Ferrari 166 MM (winner)

 

 

1953 Villoresi-Cassani on Ferrari 340 MM (winner)

 

see next, bye

[shortleg]

 

1950 Nuvolari on Cisitalia Abarth (ab.)

[Invité §car717YR]

Hallo Targa Fans

I´m a journalist in Germany. As I´m writing a book about the Porsche activities at the Targa Florio I´m looking for some photographs of the 1970 event. Especially I search pictures of the Porsche 917, which was driven during the Pretesting (many laps) and the practise (just one lap, 5th fastest time) by Vic Elford. The car was painted red and Elford had an accident during the pretests. Due to the heat it was also driven without doors.

Furthermore I´m looking for pictures af the accident when a Porsche mechanic crashed the car near Cefalu. Probably you know that the car burned and was completly destroyed.

If you know pictures I would appreciate it very much if you could name me the photographer. Published pictures will be paid for of course.

I made a lot of pictures during the 1971, 1972 and 1973 race. Perhaps I can post them sometime , when I have more time.

 

Thanks for your help.

[shortleg]

Hello Carlos, I found a picture 0f the 917 but it was blue not red. Colour red was at LeMans, it was the same car but repainted blue)

regards

 

[Invité §car717YR]

Thanks shortleg

 

I know the picture you posted. It´s an AP-picture and it´s published in Vic Elfords book. But how do you know the car is blue ? In the galleries of "Targa Florio.net" they have a color-picture of the same car at the pits near Cerda - and the car is defenitely red with white stripes. If you have got some real informations of a blue car, then there must have been 2 different 917.

 

Perhaps someone knows more about this car and the car, which was destroyed by the mechanic.

 

Thanks again

Carlos

 

[Invité §pif487mm]

Hi

I have this picture from a very long time, more than 50 years, and I don't remember who and when but I'm pretty sure that it is at the Targa-Florio (and that it was a dnf !). Maybe you know shortleg?

Bye

Pifpafadonf

 

[shortleg]

Thanks shortleg

 

I know the picture you posted. It´s an AP-picture and it´s published in Vic Elfords book. But how do you know the car is blue ? In the galleries of "Targa Florio.net" they have a color-picture of the same car at the pits near Cerda - and the car is defenitely red with white stripes. If you have got some real informations of a blue car, then there must have been 2 different 917.

 

Perhaps someone knows more about this car and the car, which was destroyed by the mechanic.

 

Thanks again

Carlos

 

 

Hello, here is the colour picture!

In March '70 the Porsche came in Sicily to comparative tests with a 917 red colour, but that car was destroyed by a mechanic. In May (I was there ) the car taking part in official tests was blue colour, driven by Elford with n°2. Now is all clear?

bye from Shortleg

 

 

[shortleg]

Hi

I have this picture from a very long time, more than 50 years, and I don't remember who and when but I'm pretty sure that it is at the Targa-Florio (and that it was a dnf !). Maybe you know shortleg?

Bye

Pifpafadonf

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/BugTarga1

 

 

Hello pifpa, here I'm:

this is the Bugatti of a Parisian engineer Louis Charavel (nickname "Sabipa") off road in '27 Targa.

 

see soon

 

[Invité §car717YR]

To shortleg

 

Tu poi mandarmi un indirizzo e-mail per una domanda particolare ?

[Invité §pif487mm]

Hi shortleg, thanks for the answer about "Sabipa". Here the arrival of Mme Junek in 1928, in a long article about her in Road &Track of february .60 it is said that people where so surprised about her performance that the flagman failed to stop Divo who actually drove 6 laps. I have never seen that anywhere else, do you know if it is true?

 

 

Bye

Pifpafadonf

[shortleg]

To shortleg

 

Tu poi mandarmi un indirizzo e-mail per una domanda particolare ?

 

 

Yes sure: fabergambis@hotmail.com

ciao, Giuseppe Gambacorta

 

[shortleg]

Hi shortleg, thanks for the answer about "Sabipa". Here the arrival of Mme Junek in 1928, in a long article about her in Road &Track of february .60 it is said that people where so surprised about her performance that the flagman failed to stop Divo who actually drove 6 laps. I have never seen that anywhere else, do you know if it is true?

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/TF28-E.Junek

 

Bye

Pifpafadonf

 

 

Hi pifpa, what written in Road&Track is not correct; Divo finished regularly, on the contrary, Chiron (4°) engrossed in the race, continued for another lap (108 km)! When returned on start line he was looked fresh and satisfacted like before beginning !!!

see next

 

[shortleg]

Hello, more photos on Martini's Porsches in '73:

 

 

 

 

[shortleg]

 

[Invité §pif487mm]

 

Hi pifpa, what written in Road&Track is not correct; Divo finished regularly, on the contrary, Chiron (4°) engrossed in the race, continued for another lap (108 km)! When returned on start line he was looked fresh and satisfacted like before beginning !!!

see next

 

 

Tanks shortleg. The older I grew, the more doubtfull I am about what people write in books and magazines. I follow lots of forums and I discover everywhere that things I took for granted where just bullshit! I am not surprised about Chiron, the man must have been a real athlete and even at sixty he had a better allure than many guys half that age and just the way he was walking showed that he was still really fit.

So long, pifpafadonf

[shortleg]

 

Tanks shortleg. The older I grew, the more doubtfull I am about what people write in books and magazines. I follow lots of forums and I discover everywhere that things I took for granted where just bullshit! I am not surprised about Chiron, the man must have been a real athlete and even at sixty he had a better allure than many guys half that age and just the way he was walking showed that he was still really fit.

So long, pifpafadonf

 

 

Actually, I think M.me Junek lost probably the race in cause of a puncture and mainly in cause of tiredness after a stressfull car chase to close the gap. It's all!

bye again

 

[shortleg]

Hello friends, here to you some of painting on Targa

 

 

 

and some of posters

 

 

ciao

[shortleg]

Hello, here I am to show you more photos on twenties

 

1924 Giulio Masetti on Mercedes

 

 

1926 Masetti's fatal accident on Delage

 

 

1926 Emilio Materassi on Hispano Suiza

 

 

1926 Antonio Borzacchini on Salmson

 

 

1927 Andrè Boillot on Peugeot

 

 

1927 Aymo Maggi on Maserati

 

ciao

[shortleg]

 

1924 Giulio Masetti on Mercedes

[shortleg]

Excuse the mistake: the photo refer to Masetti on AlfaRomeo RLTF in 1923

[Invité §pif487mm]

Great photos and beautifull paintings shortleg, such a wonderfull ambiance.

Comme je n'ai plus confiance dans mes sources je vous laisse désormais le soin d'identifier les photos que je poste (je suis sur que plusieurs fidéles du topic s'en feront un plaisir)

 

© "Champion"

 

la même voiture dans différentes revues de l'époque:

© MotoringMagazine NZ

 

© MotoringMagazine NZ

 

© Quatroruotte

 

© Auto Italiana

 

Bonne fin de week-end.

[Invité §pif487mm]

Bonsoir.

 

Pour compléter l'évocation de Mme Junek voici une peinture de Michael Turner la représentant avec sa fameuse Bugatti T35 jaune

 

 

Amicalement.

 

[shortleg]

What a beautiful images Pifpa

This is the Porsche 910 '67 winner of Stommelen-Hawkins (the australian driver falled in the sea in Montecarlo GP)

 

 

 

'67 winners

 

More images from '67

 

 

J.C.Killy and Cahier

 

 

Vaccarella-Scarfiotti (Ferrari 330 P4)

 

...and american cars...

 

 

P.Hill-Sharp on Chaparral 2F

 

 

Greder-Giorgi on Ford Gt 40

 

 

The Ford GT 40 of Ligier-Schlesser

 

bye

 

[shortleg]

Hello friends, here two paintings on Targa '55 and '73 very nice

 

 

 

see soon