TARGA FLORIO E LE CORSE SICILIANE

[shortleg]

Nice pictures Shortleg & Alfaronny, some of them i knew but also some i've never seen before.

De Casoni/Zadra Tipo 33, number 174, i only knew from youtube, there is a nice Targo Florio film from 1969 on youtube

with many Porsche and Tipo's Trentatre. Hopefully you have some more of these nice pictures!

 

Greetz

 

 

YES I have about them, spider murphy! The Casoni photo is taken by myself (modest photocamera from 40 years ago)

bye

 

 

[alfaronny]

33's FOR SALE

 

The cars from the Rosso Bianco museum are up for sale

 

http://www.kidston.com/WORLD-CLASSIC-CAR-EXPERTISE/

 

Some pictures and additional info

[shortleg]

Carrying on Alfa 33, absent in '70, took part in '71 by three factory cars to handle the Porsche team (three cars too).

After a strenuous fight and Porsche default, the Alfa n°5 driven by Vaccarella and Hezemans won at average 120,069 km/h coming before the Alfa n°2 driven by VanLennep-DeAdamich

 

 

Nino Vaccarella winner

 

 

Toine Hezemans winner

 

 

Vaccarella before starting

 

 

Leo Kinnunen in practise

 

 

Toine Hezemans

 

 

Rolf Stommelen

 

 

Gjis Van Lennep

 

 

Nino Vaccarella

 

 

Vaccarella-Hezemans

 

 

DeAdamich-VanLennep

 

to be continue soon

 

bye to all

[alfaronny]

Alfa Romeo did participate in the 1970 Targa

 

#14 Gregory-Galli DNF Accident Autodelta

#28 Courage-De Adamich DNF Accident Autodelta

#33 Maglioli-Galli DNF Accident Autodelta

No picture available

#56 Williams Alberti 7th T33-2 Spider Scuderia Madunina

 

#156 Guigno-Sutera 27th TZ #750.009 Scuderia Nissena

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Three of my fellow-countrymen drove an Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 in the Targa Florio.

In 1968 Rob Slotemaker drove a VDS-team Tipo 33/2 (numbered 178) together with Belgian driver Teddy Pilette.

After 10 laps they came home in fifth place. That year four Tipo's 33/2 finished in the top six.

In 1970 Toine Hezemans drove a Autodelta Tipo 33/3 (numbered 14). His co-driver in this race was American driver

Masten Gregory. They crashed after 5 laps and didn't finish.

A year later Hezemans won the Targa Florio together with Sicilian hero Nino Vaccarella. They were entered by

Carlo Chiti's Autodelta team in a Tipo 33/3 with startnumber 5.

Runner-up in this race ended a third Dutch Tipo 33 driver. Gijs van Lennep and co-driver Andrea de Adamich (I)

drove also a Tipo 33/3 for Autodelta.

Van Lennep later won the Targa Florio in a Martini Porsche Carrera RSR. His co-driver was Herbert Müller from

Switzerland.

 

Cordiali saluti

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In '72, absent the Porsche team, the Alfa Romeo took part in Targa with four cars 33-3 last version against one only Ferrari 312 PB world championship ruler:

n°1 Vaccarella-Stommelen; n°2 Elford-VanLennep; n°4 Hezemans-DeAdamich; n°5 Marko-Galli.

The race was very tight to the last, but the car n°5, in spite of a superMarko, did not menage to beat (for 17'' only) the Ferrari driven by Merzario and Munari.

 

 

 

Nino Vaccarella

 

 

 

Vic Elford

 

 

 

Andrea DeAdamich

 

 

Nanni Galli

 

 

Helmut Marko

 

see soon friends

[shortleg]

1973 was the last year with world championship validity and the Autodelta Alfa Romeo came in Sicily taking two cars new version 33 TT12 for DeAdamich-Stommelen (n°6) and Regazzoni-Facetti (n°7).

Unfortunately, the car n°6 only took part in the race, because Regazzoni (was driving too fast) destroyed his car in practise. The DeAdamich's car, while was taken up to victory, was involved in a banal accident and the victory given to Porsche.

 

 

 

Rolf Stommelen

 

 

Carlo Facetti

 

 

Clay Regazzoni

 

see soon

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Shortleg,

 

I also know that the Brescia Corse Team, which had a Tipo 33TT3 wanted to start in the Targa Florio in 1973.

But i thought that the car crashed in practice. Do you know more?

 

The Tipo Trentatre pictures are gorgeous, I love the car and also the Madonie circuit. Many thanks for

putting them on the forum. Are some of the pictures taken by yourself?

 

Greetz

[alfaronny]

It was the #7 AutoDelta car driven by Regazzoni-Facetti that had a crash in practice, and didn't start in the race.

The #2 Alfa Romeo 33TT3 (#11572.002) driven by Zeccoli-"Pam", and entered by Brescia Corse had an oil leak and didn't start either.

Here's another picture of De Adamich's #6 33TT12 after his accident

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Does anybody have some pictures of the Brescia Corse Tipo 33TT3, especially from the Targa practice.

I know that the car was painted white and blue. The Scuderia Brescia Corse had the official support

of Autodelta.

 

Alfaronny, does the De Adamichs car have a broken suspension and is it leaking on your picture?

The Alberti/Williams car is a 33-2 coupe with the roof cut-off, it looks shabby.

 

 

 

 

[alfaronny]

De Adamich hit a Lancia he was trying to overtake (or the Lancia hit him ???), and his race was over. So I presume he's got a broken suspension, and what you see under the car is probably dust of the road or smoke of the tire.

I'll see if I can find out more

Greetz

Ronny

[shortleg]

De Adamich hit a Lancia he was trying to overtake (or the Lancia hit him ???), and his race was over. So I presume he's got a broken suspension, and what you see under the car is probably dust of the road or smoke of the tire.

I'll see if I can find out more

Greetz

Ronny

 

 

Yes Ronny, DeAdamich trying to overtake the Lancia Fulvia, in cause of incomprehension, first hit the car and after a post made of ston breaking the front suspension when he had an advantage more than six minutes over 2nd car (Muller-VanLennep)!!!

ciao

 

[shortleg]

Does anybody have some pictures of the Brescia Corse Tipo 33TT3, especially from the Targa practice.

I know that the car was painted white and blue. The Scuderia Brescia Corse had the official support

of Autodelta.

 

Alfaronny, does the De Adamichs car have a broken suspension and is it leaking on your picture?

The Alberti/Williams car is a 33-2 coupe with the roof cut-off, it looks shabby.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm looking for a picture on 33TT3 of Pam-Zeccoli (it is not easy!)

ciao

[shortleg]

Hello, I am been able to find two pictures only on 33-3 Brescia Corse n°2

 

 

 

and the same car at LeMans '73

 

 

and more an happy memory of Big Clay in a picture signed by himself not many years ago

 

 

see soon

 

 

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Great pictures shortleg. I presume they were made during practice for the Targa Florio.

Is it you who made the pictures? You must be a lucky man to be a witness of the real Targa in the seventies.

I know the Targa only from books and films, but it must have been a great race.

The Porsche in the background is the sistercar of the winner in 1973. This Porsche Carrera didn't start in the race

just like the Brescia Corse 33TT3.

Winner in 1973 were my fellow-countryman Gijs van Lennep and Herbert Müller from Switzerland.

Later Van Lennep admitted that he had only won the race because the three faster cars in front of him

didn't finish. But it's like the English say; If you want to finish first, you first have to finish!

 

Again thanks for the pictures. Maybe you have also a story to it...

 

Greetz

 

Spider Murphy

[shortleg]

Great pictures shortleg. I presume they were made during practice for the Targa Florio.

Is it you who made the pictures? You must be a lucky man to be a witness of the real Targa in the seventies.

I know the Targa only from books and films, but it must have been a great race.

The Porsche in the background is the sistercar of the winner in 1973. This Porsche Carrera didn't start in the race

just like the Brescia Corse 33TT3.

Winner in 1973 were my fellow-countryman Gijs van Lennep and Herbert Müller from Switzerland.

Later Van Lennep admitted that he had only won the race because the three faster cars in front of him

didn't finish. But it's like the English say; If you want to finish first, you first have to finish!

 

Again thanks for the pictures. Maybe you have also a story to it...

 

Greetz

 

Spider Murphy

 

 

 

To thank for you words I'll post two photos of your fellow-countryman.

You are right, I don't know your age, but I was been really lucky to watch to that unforgetble unique period! My regret only, don't have got a digital camera... but that images will fixed in my eyes and in my mind forever!

 

 

 

ciao

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Targa Florio 1967. Peut être certaines de ces photos ont déja été postées mais je n'ai pas verifié tout le topic. Quand aux légendes je ne lis pas l'allemand et de toutes façons je n'ai plus aucune confiance dans l'Annèe Automobile. A vous de jouer!

 

 

 

 

ce soir le serveur refuse de charger plus de 3 photos. Je continuerai donc tout à l'heure.

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Suite de la Targa Florio 1967

 

 

 

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Encore la Targa 1967

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ouff!

A bientot

Pifpafadonf

[Porsche the Best]

Elles sont magnifiques ces photos !!! Merci Pipeadonf

 

PTB

[shortleg]

Hello friends, this night I wish to close the topic on Alfa 33 history

 

1974 The private crew Ottomano-Gargano on 33 TT3

 

 

1975 Vaccarella on 33 TT12 winner

 

 

1975 the same car with Merzario

 

 

1975 Casoni-Dini on 33 TT12

 

 

what next subject?

 

bye to all

[shortleg]

Targa Florio 1967. Peut être certaines de ces photos ont déja été postées mais je n'ai pas verifié tout le topic. Quand aux légendes je ne lis pas l'allemand et de toutes façons je n'ai plus aucune confiance dans l'Annèe Automobile. A vous de jouer!

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/TF67-01

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/TF67-02

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/TF67-03

 

ce soir le serveur refuse de charger plus de 3 photos. Je continuerai donc tout à l'heure.

 

 

For the record:

 

n°46 Cahier-Killy

n°226 Davis-Mitter

n°218 Herrmann-Siffert

n°224 Vaccarella-Scarfiotti

n°130 Greder-Giorgi

n°174 Biscaldi-Cella

n°198 Venturi-Williams

n°14 Filippi-Girardini

n°222 P.Hill-Sharp

n°228 Stommelen-Hawkins

 

[mikimodels]

Hello all,

I'm a new member of this fantastic forum I'm attending with interest from much time.

In particular, I want to thank my great friend Peppino "shortleg" wich opebed this gorgeous thread.

I'm Sicilian too and love so much Targa Florio and its memory.

I'm also a modelmaker and here I post some of my 1/24 models:

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes for next holidays,

Michele

[shortleg]

WELCOME Miki

 

and see soon

[shortleg]

Are you superstitious?

In 1926 Masetti, known as " leone delle Madonie", took part in Targa Florio on a Delage n°13, instead Benoist was engaged with n°17.

It said that the two drivers, great friends, made fun themselves mutually saying that your relative numbers would be brought bad luck; My 13 is a lucky number and I'll win again, told Masetti...

All know the sad epilogue!

 

 

 

 

[shortleg]

I'm coming back before war to show some image of the protagonist in Targa Florio Belle Epoque

 

 

1907 Felice Nazzaro and V.Florio

 

 

1912 Cecyl Snype (1°Giro di Sicilia/7^Targa Florio winner) with V.Florio

 

 

1921 Max Sailer

 

 

1924 Andrè Dubonnet

 

 

1924 Werner-Porsche-Sailer

 

 

1925 Bartolomeo Costantini

 

 

1926 Emilio Materassi

 

 

1926 Count Giulio Masetti

 

 

1928 Elisabeth Junek

 

 

1931 Achille Varzi

 

 

1932 Tazio Nuvolari

 

 

1932 Louis Chiron

 

 

1933 Antonio Brivio

 

goodnight friends

 

 

[fafa423]

Bonjour,

tres jolies miniatures : Bravo Miki !

Voici quelques photos parues dans le livre "50 ans d'endurance--Volume2"

--extrait d'AutoSchema

--Bibliotheque Marabout :

 

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Hello all,

I'm a new member of this fantastic forum I'm attending with interest from much time.

In particular, I want to thank my great friend Peppino "shortleg" wich opebed this gorgeous thread.

I'm Sicilian too and love so much Targa Florio and its memory.

I'm also a modelmaker and here I post some of my 1/24 models:

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/470445/TF64GiuliaTZ158.jpg

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/470445/TF66GiuliaTZ18.jpg

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/470445/TF69FM238.jpg

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/470445/TF65Cobra146.jpg

 

Best wishes for next holidays,

Michele

 

 

Very nice building! Michele, was it not you who helped me with research on the Ford GT40 GT111 1965 a number of years ago? I think so, yes? It's on page 3 in this thread .

 

Best regards,

Jörgen S

 

[shortleg]

Hi dear friends, Not many people know the painting fondness by Vincenzo Florio

 

 

1929 alle tribune

 

 

1930 Le tribune di Floriopoli

Probably the subject refers to previous year portraying the Foresti's Bugatti n°4

 

 

1951 Prince de Moree

Here he portrays the winner Cortese on his Frazer Nash

 

[mikimodels]

 

Very nice building! Michele, was it not you who helped me with research on the Ford GT40 GT111 1965 a number of years ago? I think so, yes? It's on page 3 in this thread .

 

Best regards,

Jörgen S

 

Hi Jörgen,

sure I'm that man and I recognize Your GT40 Roadster; after Your site ending, I have hoped for meet You into some forum and at last... You are here; I'm very happy to hear about You.

Why don't You put Your gorgeous model diaries as WIPs into any modeling forums? You'll can make very happy many, many modelers!!!

Please contact me OOB - mikitm@alice.it

Best regards, Michele

[shortleg]

Dedicated to new member Miki: five Ford Cobra at Targa 1964

 

 

Gurney-Grant

 

 

Ireland-Gregory

 

 

P.Hill-Bondurant

 

 

Hitchcock-Tchkotoua (unpronunceable)

 

 

Arena-Coco

 

 

 

[shortleg]

Just found Arena and Coco in '66

 

 

goodnight

[shortleg]

BUGATTI AGAIN

 

 

1925 Bartolomeo Costantini T37

 

 

1928 Andrè Dubonnet T37

 

 

1928 Elisabeth Junek 35B

 

 

1929 Ottokar Bittmann 35B

 

 

1929 Giulio Foresti 35B

 

 

1930 Louis Chiron (35B) chases Ernesto Maserati

 

 

1930 Caberto Conelli 35B

 

 

1931 Achille Varzi 51

 

Merry Christmas to all fans

[shortleg]

Just found Arena and Coco in '66

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/336526/1964 Coco-Arena.JPG

 

goodnight

 

 

Excuse the mistake! This is the crew Arena-Coco in '64 not '66

 

 

[Fulviostratos]

Chers amis, j'ai vu maintenant toutes les belles photos qui sont dans ce tres interessant sujet!

Avez vous entre vos images, les voitures suivantes?

Ferrari 250LM n.132 Sigala-Taramazzo 8° Targa Florio 1965

Alfa Romeo Giulia GTAJ 1300 Mobili Morandi Terminiello-Esposito 19° Targa Florio 1972

Merci beaucoup! Et Bonne Fetes!!!