TARGA FLORIO E LE CORSE SICILIANE

[shortleg]

After War, Motor Industryes restarted slowly own production, we see the drawning of Ferrari and Porsche, future protagonists on Targa Florio, but most of cars we watch taking part in competitions are old models prewar, the race cars production is really homemade, but the willingness to do is great.

In '47 the Millemiglia restart, in '48 the Targa on Giro di Sicilia course.

 

 

1948 Alberto Ascari before starting on Maserati A6GCS (ab.)

 

 

1948 Bianchetti-Cerulli Irelli on AlfaRomeo 6C 2500 (12°)

 

 

1948 Biondetti-Troubetzkoy winners on Ferrari 166 S ( first winner of Ferrari at Targa)

 

 

1948 Romano-Rosa on AlfaRomeo 8C 2900 (ab.)

 

 

1948 Bilotti-Avventurieri on Nardi Danese AlfaR 2500 (15°)

 

 

1948 Floridia-Perrone on Lancia Aprilia sport 1500 (ab.)

 

 

1948 DeMaria-Firullo on a little Fiat 500 B Topolino

 

In this edition: taking part crews 83, classified 33 !

 

see next

 

 

 

 

[alfaronny]

HERE ARE 2 PICTURES OF THE 1958 TARGA FLORIO, FROM THE BOOK "LA TARGA FLORIO DELLE GIULIETTA" by GINO GIUGNO

#16 ARENA-PAGANO GIULIETTA SPRINT #01776

[Invité §pif487mm]

What? A Ferrari (!) and I know the serial number, #2701GT - Where? From the background I suppose it is the Targa - When and Who? I have no idea.

 

 

Albert Divo again

[shortleg]

What? A Ferrari (!) and I know the serial number, #2701GT - Where? From the background I suppose it is the Targa - When and Who? I have no idea.

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/2701GT

 

Albert Divo again

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/35-018

 

 

Hi pifpa, this is the unmistakable Targa's scene! the car is a Ferrari 250 GT SWB, the crew Arutunoff-Von Hofer (ab.), year 1967 (the car was dated already !)

ciao

 

[shortleg]

HERE ARE 2 PICTURES OF THE 1958 TARGA FLORIO, FROM THE BOOK "LA TARGA FLORIO DELLE GIULIETTA" by GINO GIUGNO

#16 ARENA-PAGANO GIULIETTA SPRINT #01776

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/431238/1958TFARENA-PAGANO-01.JPG

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/431238/1958TFARENA-PAGANO-02.JPG

 

 

Hi Ronny, this car was not classified because finished over time max

ciao

 

[alfaronny]

Seems the car is still the same

 

[alfaronny]

Here it is at the 2007 Mont Tremblant Festival

[shortleg]

Seems the car is still the same

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/431238/250GTSWB2701GT.jpg

 

 

Hi Ronny, should be it, why not? The registration plate I think is no original, the car has been registered again.

ciao

 

[shortleg]

I have known Arutunoff six or seven years ago, when he came in Sicily on the occasion of a Targa historyc commemoration with a Lancia Flaminia SZ.

I hope he is watching this thread (i don't know it); he is able to say something about.

ciao

[alfaronny]

Some more pictures from the Giulietta book by G. Giugno

 

1957 Giro di Sicilia

#108 GIULIETTA BERLINA driven by Zagone

 

#111 GIULIETTA BERLINA S/N 00087 driven by Montalbano

 

#157 GIULIETTA SVZ (SPRINT VELOCE ZAGATO) S/N 01613 or S/N 04069, driven by Gorza to 10th place

 

#158 GIULIETTA SPRINT VELOCE S/N 02089 driven by Guglielmino

 

#203 GIULIETTA SPRINT VELOCE driven by Taormina-Tacci to 9th

 

#204 GIULIETTA SPRINT VELOCE S/N 03442 driven by Garufi

[alfaronny]

This is what I have on the '57 Giro di Sicilia.

Anyone that has more info, so I can fill in (some of) the blanks ?

[shortleg]

This is what I have on the '57 Giro di Sicilia.

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/431238/Giro di Sicilia57.jpg

Anyone that has more info, so I can fill in (some of) the blanks ?

 

 

Hello Ronny, sorry but I cannot help you; the informations I have, concern the editions coupled Giro-Targa ('12-'13-'14-'48-'49-'50). Informations more comprehensive and complete on entry lists of Giro only are more difficult to find. It needs research into local newspaper's archives of that time!

see soon

 

[alfaronny]

These are the results I have so far on the Targa's / Giro's.

 

1912

 

1913

Niente !!!

 

1914

 

1948

 

1949

 

1950

 

If you have anything on Alfa Romeo's in those years, so I can fill in the gaps, I'd be very thankfull.

Greetz

[alfaronny]

Some more pictures of the Targa Florio book

 

1959

#20 Giulietta Sprint Veloce driven by Laureati to 19th place, 5th IC

 

#28 Giulietta SVZ s/n 02158 driven by Rosinski-Bobrowski to 21st place, 6th IC

[alfaronny]

1960

#32 Giulietta SVZ s/n 02348 driven by Natella-Fiordelisi (NC - out of time)

 

#36 Giulietta SVZ driven by "Ivanhoe"-Scarlatti to 23th place, 5th IC

"Ivanhoe" is talking to Ada Pace here, who took part with a Osca 1100

 

#46 Giulietta Spider s/n 05924 driven by Picone-Di Salvo (DNF)

 

#48 Giulietta Sprint Veloce driven by Coco-Sabbia to 20th place, 4th IC

 

#72 Conrero Alfa Romeo 1150 Sport driven by De Leonibus-Munaron (DNF)

 

#158 Alfa Romeo 1500 Sport driven by Fiordelisi-Donato (DNF)

 

Both #72 & #158 used mechanical parts derived of the Giulietta

[shortleg]

Hi Ronny, very interesting pictures, I never seen the cars n°72 and 158, a precious document.

I know Gino Giugno, but I don't know the book; what its title?

As concerning the photos, I wish to do some clarification (according to my database):

 

1959 car n°20 "Ivanhoe"(Pietro Laureati)- Ivo Pompei results 16°, instead Gustavo Laureati on Osca results 19°.

1960 car n°32 driven by Latella-Fiordelisi

 

As concerning your data I am able to help you, give me a little of time only.

 

see soon

[alfaronny]

Shortleg, this is the book from Gino Giugno

"La Targa Florio della Giuletta"

 

[alfaronny]

Here are the entry lists and the results of the Alfa Romeo Giulietta's of '59 & '60

As for the '59 result of Laureati-Pompei, it was a typo...

[alfaronny]

Here's the Conrero 1150 Sport with his Giulietta engine

 

For the #32 car the book gives NATELLA, and you say it's LATELLA.

Can you confirm one of them?

I also have a Natella in the Gran Premio di Napoli one week later, driving a Giulietta SZ

 

 

[shortleg]

Hi Ronny, here I am.

May be you are right as concerns Latella/Natella/NUTELLA :q

Now I wish recapitulate the Alfa participations in Giro/Targa (according to my data):

 

1912

n° 25 Baldoni-Masi 24 HP 4200 ab.

 

1914

n° 5 Campari 40 HP ab.

n° 21 Franchini 15/20 HP ab.

n° 28 Fracassi 15/20 HP ab.

 

1948

n° 676 Alessi-Bitto 6C 2500 ab.

n° 312 Piccolo-Sapienza mod. not identified ab.

n° 322 Fiertler-Mascioli " " " ab.

n° 335 Tosto-P. Coco 6C 1750 GS 22°

n° 719 Zaiata-Savio mod not identified ab.

n° 51 Romano-Rosa 8C 2900 ab.

n° 57 Bianchetti-Cirulli Irelli 6C 2500 SS 12°

n° 185 Bilotti-Avventurieri Nardi Danese eng.Alfa 15°

n° 251 Beneventano-Omar Nardi Danese eng.Alfa ab.

n° 688 Pietrangeli-Nobile mod. not identified ab.

 

1949

n° 207 Fiertler-Mascioli 6C 2500 7° cat.

n° 325 Rol-Richiero 6C 2500 compet. 2°

n° 330 Rocco-Prete Alfa Maserati Prete 3°

n° 336 Beneventano-Omar Nardi Danese eng.Alfa ab.

 

1950

n° 302 DiStefano-Ercole 6C 2500 SS 58°

n° 305 Schwelm Cruz-R.Colonna " 7°

n° 306 Rossi-Perrone " 16°

n° 308 Vasaturo-Vasaturo " 26°

n° 450 Bonetto sport 4500 ab.

n° 452 Rol-Richiero 6C 2500 compet. 6°

n° 500 Bornigia-Bornigia " winner

n° 451 Pottino 6C 2500 not depart.

n° 458 Castro " "

 

see soon

 

[alfaronny]

!!!!! MILLE GRAZIE, GAMBACORTA !!!!!

[Invité §pif487mm]

What a wonderfull série of pictures for Alfa-lovers, you just made my day!

 

Here a strange photo of Caroll Shelby but I confess I didn't knew he ever raced in the Targa (shame). The car looks like one of the Parravano's cars (and he came in Italy to take delivery of them) but the bulge on the bonnet is supposed to have been added for clearance when a Corvette V8 engine was installed much later????

 

Again a painting from Rob Roy

[shortleg]

What a wonderfull série of pictures for Alfa-lovers, you just made my day!

 

Here a strange photo of Caroll Shelby but I confess I didn't knew he ever raced in the Targa (shame). The car looks like one of the Parravano's cars (and he came in Italy to take delivery of them) but the bulge on the bonnet is supposed to have been added for clearance when a Corvette V8 engine was installed much later????

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/Shelby-TargaFlorio55

 

Again a painting from Rob Roy

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/mercedes-targaflorio30.jpg

 

 

Hi pifpa, I think the car n°110 did not take part in Targa, even if the background seems at Targa; it is not quote on any entrylist, but may be it took part in official tests failing the qualification; I'll investigate!

As concerns the painting, it is lovely... but fantasy! (I don't understand the reason)

CIAO

 

[shortleg]

Excuse me pifpa, I was wrong !

This car (results as Ferrari 750 Monza !) took part in Targa '55 with Shelby-Munaron (ab.)

Pardon again

[Invité §spi287cG]

Alfaronny,

 

Great pictures of those beautiful Alfa’s, especially the Giulietta SVZ #26, a gorgeous car.

As a member of the Dutch Alfa Spider Register I was also pleased to see a Giulietta Spider

as participant in the Targa Florio. Do you know if there were also Duetto’s or Coda Tronca’s who participated in this great event.

 

Do you or anyone else have any pictures of the drivers Nino Todaro and Ferdinando Latteri and their Tipo 33/3 in which they participated in the 1971 Targa Florio.

 

Greetz

 

[alfaronny]

I found one, Spider

Effe tussendoor, ik heb je op 9/12 een PM gestuurd, kan je misschien eens een kijkje nemen?

[Invité §spi287cG]

Alfaronny,

 

It looks like this picture is not from the Targa, it look more like Mugello.

 

PS. Je hebt mij wat gestuurd? Waar vind ik dat?

 

Greetz/Groeten

[Invité §spi287cG]

Alfaronny

 

Have seen yoúr message!

 

Groeten

[Invité §too155pX]

What a wonderfull série of pictures for Alfa-lovers, you just made my day!

 

Here a strange photo of Caroll Shelby but I confess I didn't knew he ever raced in the Targa (shame). The car looks like one of the Parravano's cars (and he came in Italy to take delivery of them) but the bulge on the bonnet is supposed to have been added for clearance when a Corvette V8 engine was installed much later????

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/Shelby-TargaFlorio55

 

Again a painting from Rob Roy

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/360937/mercedes-targaflorio30.jpg

 

 

C'est bien la 750 Monza à Tony Parravano avec son moteur d'origine (0538M) et une carrosserie faite à sa demande. La suite Shortleg te l'a déjà écrit

 

Une autre photo (Copyright "Triumph and Tragedy" de Yves Kaltenbach)

 

[alfaronny]

Next week or so I'm going to buy the book

so I can verify some race #, as I don't have them complete yet.

This one is also on my shopping list

Spider, I also have some pictures of 33's that need some identification.

I'll post them later

Greetz

[Invité §spi287cG]

Alfaronny,

 

These two books are also on my shoppinglist, but I cannot find them in my favourit autobookshop in Holland.

Do you know where I can find them and what they cost.

 

PS. I answered your P/M yesterday.

 

Ciao,

 

Spider Murphy

 

 

[shortleg]

Alfaronny,

 

These two books are also on my shoppinglist, but I cannot find them in my favourit autobookshop in Holland.

Do you know where I can find them and what they cost.

 

PS. I answered your P/M yesterday.

 

Ciao,

 

Spider Murphy

 

 

 

This book is just published and delivered in Italy; you can contact the writer Giuseppe Valenza: ggvalenza@hotmail.com

ciao

 

[shortleg]

Alfaronny,

 

Great pictures of those beautiful Alfa’s, especially the Giulietta SVZ #26, a gorgeous car.

As a member of the Dutch Alfa Spider Register I was also pleased to see a Giulietta Spider

as participant in the Targa Florio. Do you know if there were also Duetto’s or Coda Tronca’s who participated in this great event.

 

Do you or anyone else have any pictures of the drivers Nino Todaro and Ferdinando Latteri and their Tipo 33/3 in which they participated in the 1971 Targa Florio.

 

Greetz

 

 

Hello, here is the Alfa of Todaro -Latteri ("Codones") from Targa '71

CIAO

 

 

 

[targamaniac]

 

Hello, here is the Alfa of Todaro -Latteri ("Codones") from Targa '71

CIAO

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/336526/1971 Latteri-Todaro.JPG

 

https://aws-cf.caradisiac.com/prod/mesimages/336526/1971 Todaro-Latteri.jpg

 

 

 

Good evening!!!

I am a new member of this forum....I want to say hello to my my friend Shortleg & Miki and other members of this forum

I hope to help everyone but I must learn to post the photos.....Sorry for my imperfect english

HAPPY NEW YEARS for all....see you soon by TaRGaMaNiaC

 

[Invité §spi287cG]

Shortleg,

 

Just great those Latteri-Todaro pictures, especially the colourphoto!

Is this Fernandino Latteri now a politician in Sicily?

My favourite F1-driver, Carlos Reutemann is a politician in Argentina now.

When my parents bought their first black and white television – I think in 1974 –

one of the first sportevents I saw was a Grand Prix. I can still remember the

drifting white Brabham BT44 with Reutemann at the steeringwheel, that made

me aware of autosport.

 

Ciao tutti